Comments on: Visions of the Decade: Todd Heisler’s “Final Salute” (7 Photos) http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347 A daily selection by the editors of Photo District News Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:40:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Monica http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-25340 Monica Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:40:03 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-25340 And NOTE PLEASE steve from florida...all the people are staring out the window because there is a military reception for a deceased soldier out on the tarmac, there is a mourning family and a distraught pregnant wife (unless of course you think that is photoshopped too)...that is a pretty big deal...have you been a part of one? They tend to be noticed. And NOTE PLEASE steve from florida…all the people are staring out the window because there is a military reception for a deceased soldier out on the tarmac, there is a mourning family and a distraught pregnant wife (unless of course you think that is photoshopped too)…that is a pretty big deal…have you been a part of one? They tend to be noticed.

]]> By: Monica http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-25339 Monica Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:36:10 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-25339 Just a quick comment agreeing with you Doug... I'm in the service as well...if one would use something called common sense and google 2LT James Cathey, they would be led to any number of sites including one from the Times showcasing this photograph as well as others. Not too sure that they issues being legit..maybe more people should open their eyes instead of their mouths...if you're not in the service or don't understand the families of the service members, maybe you shouldn't voice shouldn't voice so much of a know-it-all opinion... Just a quick comment agreeing with you Doug… I’m in the service as well…if one would use something called common sense and google 2LT James Cathey, they would be led to any number of sites including one from the Times showcasing this photograph as well as others. Not too sure that they issues being legit..maybe more people should open their eyes instead of their mouths…if you’re not in the service or don’t understand the families of the service members, maybe you shouldn’t voice shouldn’t voice so much of a know-it-all opinion…

]]> By: doug jacobson http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-22817 doug jacobson Sun, 01 Jan 2012 10:47:35 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-22817 The following is a copy of a comment I just left on Life's "the Photos we'll remember 2000-2010 regarding this pic & the comment about it being an obvious fake. Please note that I am no photo expert. But I would challenge those who claim it is fake to do some more investigating before making such disrespectful comments. ************ "Regarding Badcomrades comment questioning the authenticity of the photo of the fallen Marine on the plane. Being a former Marine myself, I take great offense when someone questions something of this nature. However, I served to protect the freedoms of those individuals, & I am not against checking out the facts. Altho I do not possess this amazing software Mr Badcomrade purports to "expose" the fake with, all he needed to do is go to the following website, which I just did a random google on using the photographer's name. http://bop.nppa.org/2006/still_photography/winners/OPS/57324/108946.html This is the photo that is following the alleged fake. If you look in the background, you will see the "fake" plane, with the "fake" windows all well-lit up by, I must presume, "fake" lighting of course. Please excuse my sarcasm. However, one look at that photo confirms to me, w/or w/o any super-duper hi-tech software, except for the one that God created which sits between my ears, the ones us normal people call a "brain.," that the photo titled "Taps" is indeed genuine. And I am not sure what this person meant by the windows not being lined up. Seeing as the photo was taken at night, & the surface of the plane is curved, not flat, & depending on the angle of the camera as opposed to the plane, are all going to play into the appearance of the windows, not to mention outside lighting, shadows, etc. Maybe what you should do, sir (or ma'am...I don't want to assume here), is try contacting the passengers on that plane, or maybe the widow of the fallen Marine, & ask them if it was a fake, ask them if they were faked onto the plane. This scene reminds me of "Taking Chance Home." I could not help but weep thru most of the movie. The brotherhood of the United States Marine Corps can & will outlast any cynical viewer whose lack of tack & abundance of self-loathing in a vain attempt to cheapen the deaths of my fallen brothers call only be summed up by Buzz Lightyear's comment to Woody in Toy Story: "You are a sad, strange little man [oops-or woman], and you have my pity. " To Mrs. Katherine Cathey, my sincere condolences. Thank you for sharing your husband with us. To my fallen brother, 2nd Lt James Cathey, sleep well, sir, until the Lord's return. I salute you. To those Marines who took part in the escort duty at some point, Semper Fi! To those "fake" passengers onboard that plane, I pray that you do not forget the sacrifice of that fallen young man who laid beneath your cabin. I would venture to say even as he lay there, if the Lord had granted it, he would have had his rifle there with him, watching over you as you flew to your appointed destinations. Respectfully yours, Doug Jacobson, Cpl, USMC 1972-76. " ************** FYI, I tried to do a google search on this photo to see about it being fake. The only place I am finding any remarks about it being a fake is from folks like these making such comments. It is not from the world of professional photography. Like the person I addressed in Life regarding the windows, if you look at the people closely you can see they are not evenly seated, nor is there someone in each window. But choose to believe what you wish. After all, "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." (Stuart Chase) You all have a great day, a great New year. To any other Marines reading this, Semper Fi. OohRah! God bless you. The following is a copy of a comment I just left on Life’s “the Photos we’ll remember 2000-2010 regarding this pic & the comment about it being an obvious fake. Please note that I am no photo expert. But I would challenge those who claim it is fake to do some more investigating before making such disrespectful comments.
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“Regarding Badcomrades comment questioning the authenticity of the photo of the fallen Marine on the plane. Being a former Marine myself, I take great offense when someone questions something of this nature. However, I served to protect the freedoms of those individuals, & I am not against checking out the facts. Altho I do not possess this amazing software Mr Badcomrade purports to “expose” the fake with, all he needed to do is go to the following website, which I just did a random google on using the photographer’s name.
http://bop.nppa.org/2006/still_photography/winners/OPS/57324/108946.html
This is the photo that is following the alleged fake. If you look in the background, you will see the “fake” plane, with the “fake” windows all well-lit up by, I must presume, “fake” lighting of course. Please excuse my sarcasm. However, one look at that photo confirms to me, w/or w/o any super-duper hi-tech software, except for the one that God created which sits between my ears, the ones us normal people call a “brain.,” that the photo titled “Taps” is indeed genuine. And I am not sure what this person meant by the windows not being lined up. Seeing as the photo was taken at night, & the surface of the plane is curved, not flat, & depending on the angle of the camera as opposed to the plane, are all going to play into the appearance of the windows, not to mention outside lighting, shadows, etc.
Maybe what you should do, sir (or ma’am…I don’t want to assume here), is try contacting the passengers on that plane, or maybe the widow of the fallen Marine, & ask them if it was a fake, ask them if they were faked onto the plane.
This scene reminds me of “Taking Chance Home.” I could not help but weep thru most of the movie. The brotherhood of the United States Marine Corps can & will outlast any cynical viewer whose lack of tack & abundance of self-loathing in a vain attempt to cheapen the deaths of my fallen brothers call only be summed up by Buzz Lightyear’s comment to Woody in Toy Story: “You are a sad, strange little man [oops-or woman], and you have my pity. ” To Mrs. Katherine Cathey, my sincere condolences. Thank you for sharing your husband with us. To my fallen brother, 2nd Lt James Cathey, sleep well, sir, until the Lord’s return. I salute you. To those Marines who took part in the escort duty at some point, Semper Fi! To those “fake” passengers onboard that plane, I pray that you do not forget the sacrifice of that fallen young man who laid beneath your cabin. I would venture to say even as he lay there, if the Lord had granted it, he would have had his rifle there with him, watching over you as you flew to your appointed destinations.
Respectfully yours, Doug Jacobson, Cpl, USMC 1972-76. ”
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FYI, I tried to do a google search on this photo to see about it being fake. The only place I am finding any remarks about it being a fake is from folks like these making such comments. It is not from the world of professional photography. Like the person I addressed in Life regarding the windows, if you look at the people closely you can see they are not evenly seated, nor is there someone in each window. But choose to believe what you wish. After all,
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible.” (Stuart Chase)
You all have a great day, a great New year. To any other Marines reading this, Semper Fi. OohRah! God bless you.

]]> By: Beckie http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-19357 Beckie Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:02:28 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-19357 It is laughable to me how some people try to act like they know so much. I agree with Jeremy. First of all when photos are selected for awards they are reviewed thoroughly by people to make sure they are not in fact photoshopped. And he was exactly right in saying that people would be wondering what was going on outside the plane and wanting to look outside. There would be media and all kinds of stuff going on. And about the seats lining up?? Whoever posted that, you are just an idiot. I work on commercial airplanes and there is nothing funny about the windows or the seats. It is laughable to me how some people try to act like they know so much. I agree with Jeremy. First of all when photos are selected for awards they are reviewed thoroughly by people to make sure they are not in fact photoshopped. And he was exactly right in saying that people would be wondering what was going on outside the plane and wanting to look outside. There would be media and all kinds of stuff going on. And about the seats lining up?? Whoever posted that, you are just an idiot. I work on commercial airplanes and there is nothing funny about the windows or the seats.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-18187 Jeremy Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:46:52 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-18187 Whethere this photo is photoshopped or not it is impossible to really know but I disagree with the reasons posted as to why people think it is. Take a closer look... all of the seats do not line up. From left to right windows 2,5 and 8 look like they line up with seats while none of the others do. In those other 5 seats people appear to be leaning forward if they wish to see out the window. The man in first window appears to be completely out of his seat to get a good view. A far as the lightng. if you have ever flown at night you would know that while the plane is in the air the aisle lights are generally turned off and it is fairly dark inside the cabin. But while the plane is on the ground, like this one obviously is, the aisle lights are turned on and they are VERY bright. And finally the person who says that they should not have anything to look at through the window has no idea what is really going on outside the plane. But i can imagine plenty of things going on to look out the window at. Such as television crews, family members, color guard, waiting hearse and obviously photographers. Question the photo if you wish but come up with some better reasons. Whethere this photo is photoshopped or not it is impossible to really know but I disagree with the reasons posted as to why people think it is. Take a closer look… all of the seats do not line up. From left to right windows 2,5 and 8 look like they line up with seats while none of the others do. In those other 5 seats people appear to be leaning forward if they wish to see out the window. The man in first window appears to be completely out of his seat to get a good view. A far as the lightng. if you have ever flown at night you would know that while the plane is in the air the aisle lights are generally turned off and it is fairly dark inside the cabin. But while the plane is on the ground, like this one obviously is, the aisle lights are turned on and they are VERY bright. And finally the person who says that they should not have anything to look at through the window has no idea what is really going on outside the plane. But i can imagine plenty of things going on to look out the window at. Such as television crews, family members, color guard, waiting hearse and obviously photographers. Question the photo if you wish but come up with some better reasons.

]]> By: Ron from Las Vegas http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-17610 Ron from Las Vegas Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:22:25 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-17610 The picture of the casket being loaded into a plane is obviously photoshopped. This reminds me of the photoshopped pics from Iraq. Just too phony to be believed. Just what are the "people on the plane" looking at? The cargo door is all the way up and there nothing else going on that can be seen. This smacks of someone making a great deal of money on the grief of others. Sad!! The picture of the casket being loaded into a plane is obviously photoshopped. This reminds me of the photoshopped pics from Iraq. Just too phony to be believed. Just what are the “people on the plane” looking at? The cargo door is all the way up and there nothing else going on that can be seen. This smacks of someone making a great deal of money on the grief of others.
Sad!!

]]> By: steve in florida http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-17607 steve in florida Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:56:22 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-17607 with reference to the first photo...depicting this brave soldier's casket being loaded onto an airliner... this photo has obviously been heavily photo-shopped, and as such i don't think it's worthy of a 'photojournalism' award. it does not depict the scene as it could have happened...the action in the photo, and the caption refer to the people looking out the windows... PLEASE NOTE...SEATS AND WINDOWS ON COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS DO NOT LINE-UP ON A ONE-FOR-ONE BASIS...THEY'RE STAGGERED. NOTE PLEASE: THE PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO CLOSE TOGETHER...THERE'S A PERSON SEATED, AND A FACE LOOKING OUT EACH WINDOW...THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY. WHILE THE THEME OF THIS IMAGE IS NOBLE...THE PHOTO ITSELF IS A FRAUD. with reference to the first photo…depicting this brave soldier’s casket being loaded
onto an airliner… this photo has obviously been heavily photo-shopped, and as such
i don’t think it’s worthy of a ‘photojournalism’ award. it does not depict the scene as
it could have happened…the action in the photo, and the caption refer to the people
looking out the windows… PLEASE NOTE…SEATS AND WINDOWS ON COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS DO NOT LINE-UP ON A ONE-FOR-ONE BASIS…THEY’RE STAGGERED. NOTE
PLEASE: THE PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO CLOSE TOGETHER…THERE’S A PERSON SEATED,
AND A FACE LOOKING OUT EACH WINDOW…THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY. WHILE THE THEME OF THIS IMAGE IS NOBLE…THE PHOTO ITSELF IS A FRAUD.

]]> By: Pat in WNY http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/2010/01/3347/comment-page-1#comment-16232 Pat in WNY Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:00:43 +0000 http://www.pdnphotooftheday.com/?p=3347#comment-16232 I agree with Gino and CJ, while a powerful moving moment, it does look photoshopped. I believe it was added for contrast to evoke as emotional response. I agree with Gino and CJ, while a powerful moving moment, it does look photoshopped. I believe it was added for contrast to evoke as emotional response.

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